Tuesday, October 30, 2012

Talking back to Thomas Peterffy

who should have stayed in Hungary


As many of you throughout the world have noticed, we are having an election in the US next week. And I am sure you are sick of hearing of it. I know I am. But here's a pernicious little twist: an immigrant from Hungary, a nice looking gray-haired little man, is spending millions to tell how how he is voting and why.

When he came here at age 12, he dreamt of being rich. That's ok, I dreamt of being a ballerina at that age. And Soviet oppression was - oppressive. So yay, he comes here and somehow, in about 20 years he's made enough money to buy a seat on the New York Stock Exchange and now he has between 5 and 7 billion dollars, all gotten on the up-and-up I am sure.

He has made 2 commercials which you can find on YouTube, or in the US by watching CNN. He looks into the camera and speaks softly and earnestly, telling the story of his life and imploring us to avoid socialism, which he has seen first hand. Accompanied by grim black and white photos, he tells of the freedoms of the US capitalist system and how, if we discourage people who make money, we will become like his native Hungary, poorer and poorer. The wealthy, he tells us, take care of the needy, unless we discourage them, presumably by taxing or regulating them.


And Hungary is such a bleak place. It was socialist and became poorer and poorer. The pictures he shows prove it.

He doesn't mention a candidate, but tells us he is voting Republican. So rich people won't feel discouraged. As  they did in Hungary. Against another grainy b/w photo of people out of a refugee movie he says we must learn from the past. (One of my contacts on another site, a Danish woman, is puzzled. You don't have socialists running for office in the US, she said. I told her many people think Obama is a socialist. She was dumbfounded.)

So here is my rebuttal. I'll acknowledge that Hungary in the 50's was poor and under the thumb of Soviet Russia. But by the mid-1960's, it had begun to move toward a more open society. The years between the late 60's and early 90's saw a loosening of totalitarian shackles and the forming of a country that was able to balance commerce and social welfare.

A woman I know quite well went to visit Hungary in 1981 with her sister, both fluent in Magyar or Hungarian. They found and enjoyed an open, vibrant society, quite unlike the gray misery shown in Peterffy's ad. They were free to travel, speak with the people and even enjoy some nightlife. I am including three pictures she gave me to contrast with Thomas Peterffy's b/w pictures of poor discouraged hopeless Hungary.


What impressed her more was the fabric of society. Here was a modern nation which had an ethic of taking care of its people. Most women worked, but were given 2 years of paid child care leave and their job back at the end. Education, healthcare, care for the elderly and the infants were all part of society. The Hungarians were quite proud of themselves.

But the nation was still unhappy with Soviet influence, so in the early 90's, when the Russians withdrew, they rushed to do a U-turn and voted in many capitalists. They got a few Hungarian millionaires, but the standard of living fell under the capitalist system. Oops. In the elections of May 1994, the people voted the socialists back in. They remain a potent political force to this day.

So I say this to Thomas Peterffy: socialism works. Given a choice, the Hungarians voted socialists back in. In free elections. They liked it. Taking care of each other works. Totalitarian communism doesn't work, but there is a difference and you know it. You should have stuck around your native Hungary. Maybe you wouldn't be a billionaire, but really, how much money do you need? Why don't you just shut up, pay taxes, and let us find our own way without lying to the American people.

One last thing you cheapskate. You spent millions on this ad campaign, but you only gave $61,000 to the Republican party. Wanted control over the dough, didn't you? That's what it's all about, isn't it? Power and control. And you are trying to tell me the wealthy will take care of the needy? Pfft.


17 comments:

  1. I agree with your points of view. I visited Hungary in 1970 and could see well what that country was like under totalitarian communism. History has proved that the wealthy never take care of the unfavoured people and when they do it, they are just pretending...

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    1. Yes, I agree to your comment about the wealthy not taking care of the unfavoured. Interesting you were in Hungary in 1970; I was in the then USSR in 1969 as a student. There was not a lot of food, even for us Americans, whom they were trying to impress. And we had to watch what we said. But the people were very friendly and the children were well cared for.

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  2. BRAVO!!!! I give you a standing ovation!!! I only have one thing to add and that is yes this country always seems to help the immigrants more then they help the people who are born in this country. So no wonder he is rich!! A lot of people come here and open up a small business and don't have to pay tax for 10 years (so I am told)..then they seem to either go out of business around the end of that 10 year period or they "sell" out to another member of their family and the cycle just repeats itself. We had a Subway restaurant in town that is now closed down. A man of middle eastern desent owned the franchise...the reason it is now closed?...is because he didn't pay his franchise fees!! Subway shut him down..stuff like this happens all the time all over this country. I say pffft too.

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    1. Thank you for your ovation and also your comment which had me doing some research. Immigrants can get a special visa if they have at least $500,000 and plans to start a business that will create 10 jobs in 2 years. Some companies do, indeed, waive franchise fees, but they do for veterans as well. As for the IRS, they want their tax money and they don't care how long you've been here or where you come from.

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  3. Well, you've got that right. I visited Hungary (spent most time in Budapest) in 2000. It was a school trip with my bording school, and the country and the city was lovely. And really hot in September. :)
    The people seemed happy. We certainly enjoyed our time there. Our teachers even let us walk around on our own one evening; we were a bunch of 14-16 years olds in another country and we had no trouble walking around as we wanted. Things have changed a lot since that guy moved out.

    (And you really don't have any socialists running. Move here for some years and learn what socialism entails, I say to those who don't know.)

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    1. Right now I feel so disheartened. After 4 years of mostly centrist government we are about to take a sharp turn to the far Right.

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  4. Good post. At least maybe facebook might get back to 'normal' after the elections. Believe it or notmost people in Spain are rooting for Obama.

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    1. Thanks, Wendy.

      I believe you, Brenda, that people in Spain are rooting for Obama. Most of the Europeans I know are rooting for Obama. I have a contact, Tory/Conservative Brit, and even HE thinks our healthcare system is rubbish.

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  5. How much "socialism" or "redistribution" or "safety net" we should have is and will continue to be a subject of reasonable disagreement. I'm basically what I would call a liberal, so I'm in favor of quite a bit, but maybe not as much as you, Benni.

    However, what really annoys me is this guy equating Obama's policies with Communism in Hungary (be it in 1960 or 1985). What annoys me even more is that a guy that successful and who has lived in both places simply cannot be that stupid and/or ignorant. He knows better. He's being deliberately intellectually dishonest. That's my hot button, and the Republicans are pushing it a lot this year.

    Benni. I stand in awe of your use of "pfft". May I borrow it from time to time?

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    1. We are probably pretty close in terms of a social safety net; I am somewhat fluid in my views. But you are right, he knows better and he is being deliberately dishonest, aka, lying. All parties are doing it this year, but I find that Republicans (of course) are doing it the most.

      You are very welcome to "pfft".

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  6. I love your blogs. You always manage to keep the main thing, the main thing.

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    1. Thank you. We stand at a precipice right now. It tends to focus one's energy.

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  7. Hi Benni, have no idea who Peter is and have never been to Hungary, though had a short fling with a Hungarian at 18 in 1973, if that counts. Know nothing about US politics, hard enough making sense of what happens in South Africa, never mind Denmark, mind you , don't know anything about them either. Actually just popped in to say Hello and how are you ?? Mwah !!

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    1. I've been having a fling with a Hungarian for the past 30 some years and they are quite charming. The right person (in my view) won, but we still have major problems in our country and a huge divide.

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